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=== Critical response ===
 
=== Critical response ===
 
Andrew Ross responds to Gibson's criticism of Gernsbackian futurism in his journal article "Getting Out of The Gernsback Continuum." In it, he defends some of the progressive notions that Gernsback and his colleagues believed in and refutes the idea that bad media is always the best medicine. In his words, "[[w:cyberpunk|cyberpunk]] literature [such as Gibson's], film, and television express well the current tendency to [...] disconnect technological development from any notion of a progressive future. In doing so, they leave the field of futurology open to those for whom that connection is still a very profitable idea."<ref>{{Cite journal|last=Ross|first=Andrew|date=1991|title=Getting out of the Gernsback Continuum|url=http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/448589|journal=Critical Inquiry|volume=17|issue=2|pages=411–433|doi=10.1086/448589|issn=0093-1896|via=}}</ref>
 
Andrew Ross responds to Gibson's criticism of Gernsbackian futurism in his journal article "Getting Out of The Gernsback Continuum." In it, he defends some of the progressive notions that Gernsback and his colleagues believed in and refutes the idea that bad media is always the best medicine. In his words, "[[w:cyberpunk|cyberpunk]] literature [such as Gibson's], film, and television express well the current tendency to [...] disconnect technological development from any notion of a progressive future. In doing so, they leave the field of futurology open to those for whom that connection is still a very profitable idea."<ref>{{Cite journal|last=Ross|first=Andrew|date=1991|title=Getting out of the Gernsback Continuum|url=http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/448589|journal=Critical Inquiry|volume=17|issue=2|pages=411–433|doi=10.1086/448589|issn=0093-1896|via=}}</ref>
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:{{Reply to|MorganAtMGA}} Good source, but '''discuss''' what you find interesting about it. Don't just summarize the plot or a critic's main point. YOu need to analyze and comment. —[[User:Grlucas|Grlucas]] ([[User talk:Grlucas|talk]]) 11:58, 16 September 2019 (EDT)
  
 
=== Personal response ===
 
=== Personal response ===

Revision as of 10:58, 16 September 2019

August 20, 2019: Science Fiction

Science fiction is a genre. To label a book or movie as "science fiction" may mean that it will explore themes of space travel, alternate worlds, or futuristic technology. An example of science fiction literature is Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. Science fiction contains many subgenres, a personal favorite of which is cyberpunk. I'm looking forward to reading and learning more about science fiction in this class. It's one of my favorite genres of books to read, although I find the idea of writing it myself daunting.

August 20, 2019: Learning About Science Fiction

From the assigned video[1] I learned just how much science fiction has influenced technology. I'd always thought that of it as a coincidence that devices like spaceships and wrist-phones showed up in science fiction prior to their invention--that the authors and inventors were reading the same news and stories and happened to arrive at the same conclusions, but no--in many of those cases the authors dreamed it up and then the inventors built it.

From Ursula K. Le Guin's introduction to The Norton Book of Science Fiction: North American Science Fiction, 1960-1990[2] I learned that science fiction differs from the genre of fantasy by its avoidance of the supernatural, and from realism by the narrative value of its departure from reality. Her survey of the themes included in the book, as well as the genre, were new and interesting to me as well. It made me want to read the rest of the book she was introducing.

The most concise definition I've found for science fiction was Isaac Asimov's: "Science fiction is that branch of literature which is concerned with the impact of scientific advance upon human beings."[3] That seems to encompass all of the diverse and complex themes that Le Guin touched on in the introduction above, as well as sum up what I think of when I think of science fiction. It's not about the scientific advances themselves, but their impact on us that has led to all the creativity, speculation, fear, and hope that can be found throughout science fiction literature.

@MorganAtMGA: I thought the same way about science fiction. I mostly thought it was just about aliens and space but it is much more complex than that. Science Fiction is shown to be a very interesting genre. Tami Marie 9:55 September 6, 2019

September 8, 2019: John Cheever's "The Swimmer"

I would argue that based on the definition of science fiction given in the last post I made, which involved the presence of scientific advances, that "The Swimmer" is not science fiction. There's nothing explicitly scientific in it. What is there to distinguish it from literary fiction? Are swimming pools being considered a scientific advance? What I thought when I was reading it was that it was a work of literary fiction, which could be interpreted many ways, but the primary meaning I took away from it was about persistence.

Neddy, the main character, persevered on his journey past the point of knowing why he was even doing it. This is most evident in the following quote, where the story breaks into second person point-of-view: "He could have gone back, back to the Westerhazys’, where Lucinda would still be sitting in the sun. He had signed nothing, vowed nothing, pledged nothing, not even to himself. Why, believing as he did, that all human obduracy was susceptible to common sense, was he unable to turn back?"[4] Here, Cheever's narrator asks us directly what the story is about. We wonder not only why he is unable to turn back, but why he went on the quest at all.

Blythe, Hal, and Charlie Sweet[5], however, assert that Neddy's journey is a "selfish search for his own youth." Their emphasis on youth lends a different perspective to the idea of turning back in the last paragraph. Perhaps he wasn't able to turn back physically in the road because time doesn't work that way. We can only move forward, and so we must move forward. Even when the journey itself doesn't make any sense to us or anyone else, we have to keep going.

September 8, 2019: Parallels between "The Swimmer" and La Jetée

Initially, these two stories have very different endings. The main character in "The Swimmer" seems to be facing old age at the end of the story, whereas the main character of La Jetée[6] dies younger and of unnatural causes. However, both main characters are confronted with their own mortality which they are helpless to stop.

@MorganAtMGA: This is a great start. Where's the rest of your post? Citations? —Grlucas (talk) 13:03, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

September 15: William Gibson's "The Gernsback Continuum"

In William Gibson's short story "The Gernsback Continuum," the narrator is a photographer who sees through his camera lens a future that was promised by early science fiction stories like the ones collected by Hugo Gernsback. That future is clean, metallic, mostly white, and completely impossible. Elements of its futuristic design, though, are left over as "semiotic ghosts" which accumulate as crumbling architecture and come to haunt the narrator. Only a diet of "bad media"--dirty, and realistic to the times--will help him overcome what he's seen and link him once again to the future that actually came out of the thirties, which the narrator prefers.[7]

Critical response

Andrew Ross responds to Gibson's criticism of Gernsbackian futurism in his journal article "Getting Out of The Gernsback Continuum." In it, he defends some of the progressive notions that Gernsback and his colleagues believed in and refutes the idea that bad media is always the best medicine. In his words, "cyberpunk literature [such as Gibson's], film, and television express well the current tendency to [...] disconnect technological development from any notion of a progressive future. In doing so, they leave the field of futurology open to those for whom that connection is still a very profitable idea."[8]

@MorganAtMGA: Good source, but discuss what you find interesting about it. Don't just summarize the plot or a critic's main point. YOu need to analyze and comment. —Grlucas (talk) 11:58, 16 September 2019 (EDT)

Personal response

I was fascinated by the idea of semiotic ghosts as Gibson uses it, to think there's a whole layer of collectively imagined futures, just over the one we're living in, that we can be haunted by. It reminds me of cargo cults in how people can erroneously link cause and effect. What role, for better or worse, has science fiction played in creating the future we're living in? What role should it play going forward, and how can we best accomplish that? Whatever the answer, I appreciate Gibson asking the question in "The Gernsback Continuum."

September 15: Parallels between "The Gernsback Continuum" and "Blink"

Both William Gibson's "The Gernsback Continuum" and the Dr. Who episode "Blink" address multiple points in time and the potential human futures for the events that lie between them.

Gibson's story takes place in his present day of 1981. The narrator immerses himself in architecture representative of "The Tomorrow That Never Was,"[7] based on visions of the future in early science fiction stories. The distance between the future they imagined and the one he finds himself in causes him to become disoriented and hallucinate.

In "Blink," an episode of Dr. Who which received a Hugo (named after Hugo Gernsback) award[9], the distance between the future a person might have had and the one they ended up with is represented through the Weeping Angels, the villains of the episode. As Dr. Who puts it, if they attack you, "you die in the past, and in the present they consume the energy of all the days you might have had, all your stolen moments. They're creatures of the abstract. They live off potential energy."[10] In this way, the episode links to Gibson's ideas through their shared discussion of "stolen moments."

@MorganAtMGA: You make some interesting points I did not really think about. You mention that both stories refer to stolen moments. While I understand that for the “Blink” episode, I don’t quite see it for “The Gernsback Continuum.” Can you elaborate on how it does?--Daisja30 (talk) 22:47, 15 September 2019 (EDT)

@Daisja30: Sure! I was thinking along the lines of moments from their future. Specifically, in Gibson's case, the shiny and perfect future that early science fiction promised but didn't deliver. It was stolen from them by the cold war, corporate interests, and environmental concerns, among other things. Gibson touches on some of that in the story, and the journal article by Andrew Ross talks about it some too. -MorganAtMGA (talk) 00:24, 16 September 2019 (EDT)

References

  1. The Truth About Science Fiction (Documentary), retrieved 2019-08-21
  2. The Norton book of science fiction : North American science fiction, 1960-1990. Le Guin, Ursula K., 1929-2018,, Attebery, Brian, 1951-, Container of (work): Knight, Damon, 1922-2002., Container of (work): Smith, Cordwainer, 1913-1966., Container of (work): Sturgeon, Theodore., Container of (work): Bunch, David R. (First edition ed.). New York. ISBN 0393035468. OCLC 27382749.CS1 maint: others (link) CS1 maint: Extra text (link)
  3. Bretnor, Reginald, ed. (1953). Modern Science Fiction: Its Meaning and Its Future.
  4. https://loa-shared.s3.amazonaws.com/static/pdf/Cheever_Swimmer.pdf
  5. Blythe, H., & Sweet, C. (2003). Cheever’s Dark Knight of the Soul: The Failed Quest of Neddy Merrill. Gale. Retrieved from http://search.ebscohost.com.ezproxy.mga.edu/login.aspx?direct=true&db=edsglr&AN=edsgcl.H1420032077&site=eds-live&scope=site
  6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfXCkFQtXw
  7. 7.0 7.1 Gibson, William, 1948-. The Gernsback continuum. OCLC 715187986.CS1 maint: Multiple names: authors list (link)
  8. Ross, Andrew (1991). "Getting out of the Gernsback Continuum". Critical Inquiry. 17 (2): 411–433. doi:10.1086/448589. ISSN 0093-1896.
  9. Defendini, Pablo (2008-08-10). "Hugo Award Winners". Tor.com. Retrieved 2019-09-15.
  10. Template:Cite episode